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  • 1.  Tabbing on a gate-fold mailer

    Posted 06-08-2017 09:44 AM

    I have a question about a gate-folded self mailer... The flat size is 9 X 12 ¼. The bottom panel measures 3 1/8 and folds up on the non-addressed side. The top panel measures 3 1/8 and folds down on the non-addressed side. The finished size is 6 X 9. The flaps meet in the middle of the non-addressed side with a ¼" overlap. Should this be acceptable for Automation compatible when tabbed correctly? If so, what would be the proper tabbing for this situation.

     

    Thanks, in advance, for any help.

    Mike



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    Mike Lower
    Mailing Specialist
    Triangle Press Inc.
    Harrisburg PA
    717-541-9315
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  • 2.  RE: Tabbing on a gate-fold mailer

    Posted 06-08-2017 10:24 AM

    It is not automation compatible.  Part of the definition for a folded self-mailer is the it needs to have a minimum of two full panels.  The exterior panels need to be equal or nearly equal in size.

    You are permitted to have an external short "flap" under specific parameters, but you must first satisfy the two panel requirement.

     

     

     

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    VP, Mail & Data Processing
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  • 3.  RE: Tabbing on a gate-fold mailer

    Posted 06-08-2017 02:18 PM
    Thanks Phil
    Mike

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    Mike Lower
    Mailing Specialist
    Triangle Press Inc.
    Harrisburg PA
    717-541-9315
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  • 4.  RE: Tabbing on a gate-fold mailer

    Posted 06-09-2017 02:16 AM
    Hello All

    Phil is correct, based on the letter of the law (DMM) Mike's piece is not a folded self mailer because it doesn't have two panels. However, we all know that if that piece was tabbed on the ends or the longer flap was glued to the shorter flap, the piece would run through USPS equipment without issue.
     
    So my question to you is...What Is It?  It's not a card.  It's not an envelope. It's not a booklet.  It's not a Flat. So what is it? Where is the definition of a mailpiece that is folded (truth) but doesn't have two panels?  Maybe it's a Semi Folded Self-Mailer, or a Kinda Folded Self-Mailer, or a Double Flap Almost Folded Self-Mailer.  The mailing community needs to know what processing category this piece fits into.

    I would like to hear your comments and your experiences with a mailpiece that is folded but doesn't have two panels. Did the USPS accept it as a Folded Self Mailer or did you have to pay non-machinable rates?

    Hopefully together we can get the USPS to define just what type of mailpiece this is.

    Thanx and have a great Friday and better weekend

    GPH

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    George Heinrich
    The Postal Professor
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  • 5.  RE: Tabbing on a gate-fold mailer

    Posted 06-09-2017 06:25 AM

    I would mail this as a non-machineable Letter. 

    However, in my experience, if I presented this at automation rates, I would bet 80% of the acceptance clerks at various Post Offices I deal with would not know the difference and would accept it.

     

     

    Phil Roura
    VP, Mail & Data Processing
    732.223.9888 x 142  mobile 732.757.8244 
    PRoura@...  www.hatteras.us
    56 Park Road Tinton Falls, NJ 07724

     






  • 6.  RE: Tabbing on a gate-fold mailer

    Posted 06-09-2017 10:15 AM

    We have tabbed or glued them and they were accepted as FSM with no problem. It just depends on the clerk you get. I would try for automation but be prepared to pay extra if they say you have to.

     

     

     

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